OK, this topic is not really on Passive House.
Hot Dip Galvanizing in Toronto:
Cost: Rough Ballpark is $.40/lb of finished galvanised item, $295 min charge
Spec: ASTM A123, min thickness 3.4mil or 610g/Sqm or 2oz/SF
Tubular sections will require holes about 30% of section width each end of frame/item.
Bath is at 840deg F, so no sealed sections will be allowed due to danger of exploding, though part can also float in the molten zinc bath.
Partial dipping is possible but there can be practical issues with the conveying machinery and part set-up - so it depends on what the part looks like - shape, etc.
I love finding out stuff like this.
LT
Thursday, October 14, 2010
Tuesday, September 28, 2010
New Zoning Bylaw was passed in Toronto!
Note ------ see later blog posts in December for analysis of the double-enforcement of new and old bylaws simultaneously. ---------
Oh Boy,
So much has happenned since the last blog entry.
We finished our structural engineering and we've completed the drawings....at least to get them ready for permit. However, the zoning bylaw in Toronto has changed to a new one, Bylaw 1156-2010, passed by City Council Aug 27th. Apparently the idea was to harmonize. The wonderful thing is that the new bylaw is all online, so its no longer a secret, like it was before - you had to go to the library to get it, and that was only a part of it.
The big thing for us is that that the building height limitation has changed from 8.8m to the mid-point of the roof to 10m to the peak. - Our building is about 45inches too tall!
This seemed a major problem to to us, and we re-geared our plans and figured we'd go for a zoning adjustment, and then start construction in the spring.
However, we had more contact with the city now as we prepared our plans for the adjsutment application (which the city says will take 3 to 4 months minimum), and today the city called us to discuss our 2nd set of plans (the first was in May or June). Well, the news is that the new zoning bylaw is being appealed, so the city has to double-review all files-in-process to ensure they comply with BOTH old and new zoning bylaws! - this is Crazy!
We get all the restrictions of the new and old bylaws, and the benefits of one are often degraded or cancelled by the other. - For example:
Comparing old zoning R4 to new zoning R:
Apply for a zoning adjustment for every feature that meets one but not the other - perhaps in the process we can get the best of both?
Oh Boy,
So much has happenned since the last blog entry.
We finished our structural engineering and we've completed the drawings....at least to get them ready for permit. However, the zoning bylaw in Toronto has changed to a new one, Bylaw 1156-2010, passed by City Council Aug 27th. Apparently the idea was to harmonize. The wonderful thing is that the new bylaw is all online, so its no longer a secret, like it was before - you had to go to the library to get it, and that was only a part of it.
The big thing for us is that that the building height limitation has changed from 8.8m to the mid-point of the roof to 10m to the peak. - Our building is about 45inches too tall!
This seemed a major problem to to us, and we re-geared our plans and figured we'd go for a zoning adjustment, and then start construction in the spring.
However, we had more contact with the city now as we prepared our plans for the adjsutment application (which the city says will take 3 to 4 months minimum), and today the city called us to discuss our 2nd set of plans (the first was in May or June). Well, the news is that the new zoning bylaw is being appealed, so the city has to double-review all files-in-process to ensure they comply with BOTH old and new zoning bylaws! - this is Crazy!
We get all the restrictions of the new and old bylaws, and the benefits of one are often degraded or cancelled by the other. - For example:
Comparing old zoning R4 to new zoning R:
- Height limitations are screwed up - in old, there are two limits based on whether the roof is flat or sloped, being 8.0m and 8.8m (to midpoint of roof) respectively. Now in the new, the limit is 10mregardless, except 2 opposing principal walls must be less than 7m. So what if the building is 10m, with a flat section at the top, but meets the wall heights requirement?
- Old zoning stipulates 2 stories max. New code doesn't care - so what if the building has 3 stories?
- Old bylaw does not allow roofs over porches which are exempt from coverage - only canopies. New bylaw does - so what do you do if you want the roof?
- Old zoning provides for 0.5m roof overhangs without coverage penalty. New zoning allows for 0.9m. What to put into the design?
Apply for a zoning adjustment for every feature that meets one but not the other - perhaps in the process we can get the best of both?
Wednesday, August 18, 2010
Absorption Chillers, Einstein refridgerators and cool stuff like that
Check out this Youtube TED video on a low-cost, high-tech refridgeration technology by Adam Grosser;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSdXqmnNCp0
Crazy cool stuff - use a campfire as an energy source for cooling 3 gallons of water down to just above 0deg C, for 24hrs, in a 30deg C environment. Funny thing is that to figure out this technology, they had to get the entire thermodynamics dept at Stanford involved and used CFD (computational fluid dynamics) to regenerate the property tables for ammonia, discovering that the old ones were all wrong.....this is pretty freaky stuff.
So, we need something that takes energy from the sun to power an absorption chiller designed to cool down a house.
Alternative: Take the heat from inside the house (via the ERV/HRV), concentrate it to use as a heat source to power the absorption chiller to cool the house (again via ERV/HRV). Any losses in efficiencies (waste heat) go to the domestic hot water system. How cool would that be?
The Einstein refridgerator (an absorption chiller variant) uses no moving parts. A guy named M. McCulloch is involved with reviving this technology at Oxford university.
Now the search for practical units in the marketplace begins.
LT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSdXqmnNCp0
Crazy cool stuff - use a campfire as an energy source for cooling 3 gallons of water down to just above 0deg C, for 24hrs, in a 30deg C environment. Funny thing is that to figure out this technology, they had to get the entire thermodynamics dept at Stanford involved and used CFD (computational fluid dynamics) to regenerate the property tables for ammonia, discovering that the old ones were all wrong.....this is pretty freaky stuff.
So, we need something that takes energy from the sun to power an absorption chiller designed to cool down a house.
Alternative: Take the heat from inside the house (via the ERV/HRV), concentrate it to use as a heat source to power the absorption chiller to cool the house (again via ERV/HRV). Any losses in efficiencies (waste heat) go to the domestic hot water system. How cool would that be?
The Einstein refridgerator (an absorption chiller variant) uses no moving parts. A guy named M. McCulloch is involved with reviving this technology at Oxford university.
Now the search for practical units in the marketplace begins.
LT
Friday, August 13, 2010
Hot Water and Heating with Heat pumps
Using only electricity for DHW and heat on our project results in a primary energy consumption of some 180kWh/m^2an, so this simplest of solutions is definitely not passive house. Using heat pumps exclusively for both cuts the number in half (the limit is 120kWh...).
There are many types of heat pump module available. Therma-Vent, Aqua-Plus, Heat Harvester, HotPlate... The issue is heat pumps degrade in COP significantly as the output temperatures reach 55 to 60deg C for DHW (but they can still do this with a COP of about 2).
Anyway, we need to look at harvesting the incoming ventilation air heat in summer and the outgoing ventilation air heat in summer, and the outgoing ventilation air heat in winter - got that?
The other thing is to integrate this all with solar thermal, and a 600' 3/4" pex loop in the ground should provide a fair bit of the needed energy as well. It would be nice to have an insulated concrete tank where we can dump excess heat in summer and recover it in winter. The earthtube seems more and more of an impracticality, though it is still a minor possibility.
LT
There are many types of heat pump module available. Therma-Vent, Aqua-Plus, Heat Harvester, HotPlate... The issue is heat pumps degrade in COP significantly as the output temperatures reach 55 to 60deg C for DHW (but they can still do this with a COP of about 2).
Anyway, we need to look at harvesting the incoming ventilation air heat in summer and the outgoing ventilation air heat in summer, and the outgoing ventilation air heat in winter - got that?
The other thing is to integrate this all with solar thermal, and a 600' 3/4" pex loop in the ground should provide a fair bit of the needed energy as well. It would be nice to have an insulated concrete tank where we can dump excess heat in summer and recover it in winter. The earthtube seems more and more of an impracticality, though it is still a minor possibility.
LT
Windows again
Had another conversation with Thermotech. They confirmed the use of the zeros (apparently PHIUS is in agreement with this) in the PHPP for Psi spacer and Psi installation. This makes a huge difference to the energy calculations reducing specific annual energy by a kWh/m^2 or more.
Also the cost of their windows with the 322Gain+ triple pane glass is about $65-70/SF depending on options. The windows come with or without installation flanges, with or without brick mold.
No tilt and slide patio doors available - so this is an issue, since I don't want to pay shipping from europe for just a couple of doors.
LT
Also the cost of their windows with the 322Gain+ triple pane glass is about $65-70/SF depending on options. The windows come with or without installation flanges, with or without brick mold.
No tilt and slide patio doors available - so this is an issue, since I don't want to pay shipping from europe for just a couple of doors.
LT
Wednesday, August 4, 2010
Windows - Thermotech vs Others in PHPP
I went through detailed modelling of the thermal envelope recently and compared Thermotech windows to Euro-style PH windows:
Here's an email I sent to Stephen Thwaites of Thermotech about the results:
Dear Stephen and Ken,
.......preamble....
Our design is a 2.5 storey house 41.5ft e-w by 36.5ft n-s. It is a rectangualr box with a gable roof, the ends facing e-w. Very simple and compact shape, with basement. 35 Openings totalling 39.9Sq m of windows, including 4 doors with 1/2 lites and including door and window frames, 20.9 sqm of that on the south.
What I found is:
1. Compared Thermotech glass to a high-performance 'Low-E 0.51 Neutralite Guardian Luxguard (item 35 in the PHPP)' glass with SHGC 0.51 and Ug 0.51, the model showed a 1kWh/m^2an advantage over the Thermotech 322Gain+(75/68) glass. With Thermotech glass, we were at 12.966kWh, and with the Neuatrilite, it was down to 11.99. This compares to the 15kWh/m^2an threshold to be a passive house. The comparison was done with the Thermotech casement frames in the model.
2. Returning the model to the Thermotech glass, I compared Thermotech frames to Optiwin Solarfassade frames, but keeping the 4 doors as before, which are generic. The narrowness of the Thermotech frames (0.68m compared to Optiwin's 0.100) is definitely a significant boost to performance. Switching from Thermotech Casements all around to the Optiwin degraded the building's performance from 12.97kWh/m^2an to 14.81 - a very significant difference. Fixed (non opening) Thermotech windows will be good as well, of course, though there is still more comparing to do.
I didn't look at the sliding glass doors since I don't think they'll meet airtightness needs without the lift and slide hardware.
LT
Here's an email I sent to Stephen Thwaites of Thermotech about the results:
Dear Stephen and Ken,
.......preamble....
Our design is a 2.5 storey house 41.5ft e-w by 36.5ft n-s. It is a rectangualr box with a gable roof, the ends facing e-w. Very simple and compact shape, with basement. 35 Openings totalling 39.9Sq m of windows, including 4 doors with 1/2 lites and including door and window frames, 20.9 sqm of that on the south.
What I found is:
1. Compared Thermotech glass to a high-performance 'Low-E 0.51 Neutralite Guardian Luxguard (item 35 in the PHPP)' glass with SHGC 0.51 and Ug 0.51, the model showed a 1kWh/m^2an advantage over the Thermotech 322Gain+(75/68) glass. With Thermotech glass, we were at 12.966kWh, and with the Neuatrilite, it was down to 11.99. This compares to the 15kWh/m^2an threshold to be a passive house. The comparison was done with the Thermotech casement frames in the model.
2. Returning the model to the Thermotech glass, I compared Thermotech frames to Optiwin Solarfassade frames, but keeping the 4 doors as before, which are generic. The narrowness of the Thermotech frames (0.68m compared to Optiwin's 0.100) is definitely a significant boost to performance. Switching from Thermotech Casements all around to the Optiwin degraded the building's performance from 12.97kWh/m^2an to 14.81 - a very significant difference. Fixed (non opening) Thermotech windows will be good as well, of course, though there is still more comparing to do.
I didn't look at the sliding glass doors since I don't think they'll meet airtightness needs without the lift and slide hardware.
LT
Thursday, July 29, 2010
SIPS for an R100 Roof
Well, the roof is not turning out to be easy. the first option I've been working on is a 2x6 rafter system conventionally framed with sheathing and Grace Ice and Water Shield on the outside of it as an air and vapour barrier. (PERSIST system). Then 20" deep I-joists go on top of that assy, sitting on 2x4 purlins on the flat to minmimize thermal bridging. Something is done at the top to form a 2.5" deep vent channel and then another layer of sheathing and then the roofing. Long process, some big parts of it on scaffolding. Costs are significant too. Costing is complicated, but I have most of the numbers. It is something like $19,000 of materials not including roofing. Labour - who knows?
Then the SIPS solution. the idea would be to frame the roof with the previously planned 2x6 rafters, then place the SIPS on top. Air and vapour barriers are not needed, and neither is the vent channel. It is solid insulation right through to the outside. If code officials balk, then a conventional poly VB can be placed on the inside of hte inner frames.
Talked with Kent Truss in Barrie - they say the value of the SIPS materials for this application is about $30,000 delivered to site, (SIPS and their accessories only - no roofing). The roof is a simple 8/12 pitch gable, total 2160SF on the outside. Apparently this is about 2 truckloads of SIPS materials.
Installation is an additional $2/sf approx, but in our case, maybe double that. Sips are max 12.25" thick - this is for manufacturing reasons, and also the 2x12 studs used to connect them. since the thickest SIPs are R45.5, they would need to use 2 layers, the second being faced one-side only with OSB. Special 14" long screws are used to secure the SIPS. OSB facings are 7/16" standard thickness.
Also, largest SIPS panels available from Insulspan are 8'x24' (x previously mentioned 12.25"thk).
LT
Then the SIPS solution. the idea would be to frame the roof with the previously planned 2x6 rafters, then place the SIPS on top. Air and vapour barriers are not needed, and neither is the vent channel. It is solid insulation right through to the outside. If code officials balk, then a conventional poly VB can be placed on the inside of hte inner frames.
Talked with Kent Truss in Barrie - they say the value of the SIPS materials for this application is about $30,000 delivered to site, (SIPS and their accessories only - no roofing). The roof is a simple 8/12 pitch gable, total 2160SF on the outside. Apparently this is about 2 truckloads of SIPS materials.
Installation is an additional $2/sf approx, but in our case, maybe double that. Sips are max 12.25" thick - this is for manufacturing reasons, and also the 2x12 studs used to connect them. since the thickest SIPs are R45.5, they would need to use 2 layers, the second being faced one-side only with OSB. Special 14" long screws are used to secure the SIPS. OSB facings are 7/16" standard thickness.
Also, largest SIPS panels available from Insulspan are 8'x24' (x previously mentioned 12.25"thk).
LT
Tuesday, July 27, 2010
Windows Again
Wow,
There are some fantastic window discussions out there. Green Building Advisor has so much information in it. Fantastic!
Here is the link (Thanks to the Loading Dock Blog for the link http://blog.loadingdock5.com/?p=192 )
http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/passivhaus-windows
There are some fantastic window discussions out there. Green Building Advisor has so much information in it. Fantastic!
Here is the link (Thanks to the Loading Dock Blog for the link http://blog.loadingdock5.com/?p=192 )
http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/passivhaus-windows
Window Sourcing
Gualhofer, Optiwin, are two Euro window makers selling in NA.
Here is the Gaulhofer NA site: http://www.gaulhoferwindows.com/contact-us.php
Optiwin NA is easy to find.
Their Frostkorken door is approx $2000, I think, with VIP panels inside, rated R60 (!), this price with no frills.
Here is the Gaulhofer NA site: http://www.gaulhoferwindows.com/contact-us.php
Optiwin NA is easy to find.
Their Frostkorken door is approx $2000, I think, with VIP panels inside, rated R60 (!), this price with no frills.
Windows and really good Windows!
Conversation with Stephen at Thermotech was very enlightening. Here is some info about their windows and windows in general.
Only 3 NA companies make the high-performance windows needed for Passive House.
Here are some numbers on sizing:
Only 3 NA companies make the high-performance windows needed for Passive House.
- Serious Windows
- Thermotech
- Fibertec
Here are some numbers on sizing:
- Tilt and turn windows work best at about 3 to 4ft wide.
- Triple pane casements should not be wider than 34" or the hinge hardware becomes inadequate
- Casement dimensions are max about 34"x72".
- Awning windows are good up to 4'x4' sizes.
- Pricing is by perimeter, except the customer base prefers 'united length'. At a certain size, windows jump in price due to the need to thicken the glass, which is determined by wind pressures and CSA codes. This size is 95 united inches (outside dim of windows, length plus width). Above 95 Ui, glass must be 4mm thick, rather the 3.
- Thermotech recently began offering a triple pane glass with low -e, argon, and now low-iron glass called their 322 Gain Plus. The low iron improves SHGC, though drops R value slightly. Krypton fill adds about $20 to $30 per SF to window costs (!).
- Nice window hardware is by Roto, Segania, G. U.
- Energy Rating (ER) rating is a Canadian rating system for windows that takes solar heat gains into account as well as R-value. Thermotech windows perform very well in this rating system, in which solar gains over 200 days in the year are averaged.
- Here is a window discussion in GreenBuildingAdvisory.com: http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/community/forum/energy-efficiency-and-durability/14850/serious-windows-vs-thermotech-fibertec-inline
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